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	<title>Comments on: Intel love animal cruelty</title>
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		<title>By: The Internet is no longer the Wild West - 3 Cautionary tales from online - The Translator</title>
		<link>http://bethgranter.com/blog/2007/11/intel-love-animal-cruelty/comment-page-1/#comment-157</link>
		<dc:creator>The Internet is no longer the Wild West - 3 Cautionary tales from online - The Translator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tale Number 2 - There is nowhere to hide. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Beth Granter</title>
		<link>http://bethgranter.com/blog/2007/11/intel-love-animal-cruelty/comment-page-1/#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth Granter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi everyone, including Mark and D Orkus. I thought it strange that I received two comments in the same day on an old blog post, and since the one from D Orkus was pretty rude, I checked the IP address. Turns out Mark and D Orkus share an IP address, which is associated to a huge ad agency in London. I won&#039;t name them at this point as it doesn&#039;t seem worth upsetting anybody over, but this is a prime example of how letting your employees comment on blog posts from work can be very dangerous to the reputation of the company, if they&#039;re speaking with the kind of sarcastic tone that D Orkus has done. This would look particularly bad if they expect to run social media / online PR projects for clients. Mark&#039;s comment is much more appropriate and a suitable response however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everyone, including Mark and D Orkus. I thought it strange that I received two comments in the same day on an old blog post, and since the one from D Orkus was pretty rude, I checked the IP address. Turns out Mark and D Orkus share an IP address, which is associated to a huge ad agency in London. I won&#8217;t name them at this point as it doesn&#8217;t seem worth upsetting anybody over, but this is a prime example of how letting your employees comment on blog posts from work can be very dangerous to the reputation of the company, if they&#8217;re speaking with the kind of sarcastic tone that D Orkus has done. This would look particularly bad if they expect to run social media / online PR projects for clients. Mark&#8217;s comment is much more appropriate and a suitable response however.</p>
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		<title>By: Curvball</title>
		<link>http://bethgranter.com/blog/2007/11/intel-love-animal-cruelty/comment-page-1/#comment-155</link>
		<dc:creator>Curvball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Either which way you look at this ad - it&#039;s still really lame.

I headed over to Mark&#039;s site to see both ad&#039;s in action, and well... it just looks like a stuck record - just skipping over and over and over.

..surely a better execution of this concept is in order?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Either which way you look at this ad &#8211; it&#8217;s still really lame.</p>
<p>I headed over to Mark&#8217;s site to see both ad&#8217;s in action, and well&#8230; it just looks like a stuck record &#8211; just skipping over and over and over.</p>
<p>..surely a better execution of this concept is in order?</p>
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		<title>By: Beth Granter</title>
		<link>http://bethgranter.com/blog/2007/11/intel-love-animal-cruelty/comment-page-1/#comment-154</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth Granter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mark,

Thanks - don&#039;t worry, as I said to Cynthia, &quot;I didn’t mean that Intel really were being cruel – just that the looping of the video had the effect of making it look that way&quot;. And, I do start my post with &quot;OK so not really&quot; and finish my post with &quot;of course I know it’s not real and the dog probably only did that walk once or twice&quot;, so in no way was I inferring that Intel are actually cruel.

I still think the repeated pacing LOOKS like animals which have gone insane as a result of being in a small cage though! This post was meant as a critique of the creative implementation, not a critique of Intel the brand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark,</p>
<p>Thanks &#8211; don&#8217;t worry, as I said to Cynthia, &#8220;I didn’t mean that Intel really were being cruel – just that the looping of the video had the effect of making it look that way&#8221;. And, I do start my post with &#8220;OK so not really&#8221; and finish my post with &#8220;of course I know it’s not real and the dog probably only did that walk once or twice&#8221;, so in no way was I inferring that Intel are actually cruel.</p>
<p>I still think the repeated pacing LOOKS like animals which have gone insane as a result of being in a small cage though! This post was meant as a critique of the creative implementation, not a critique of Intel the brand.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth Granter</title>
		<link>http://bethgranter.com/blog/2007/11/intel-love-animal-cruelty/comment-page-1/#comment-153</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth Granter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi D Orkus,

The image you&#039;re referring to on my Flickr was of somebody else holding a crab, not me - I would have left it alone.

Not sure of your reason for insult though - &#039;lame comments&#039;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi D Orkus,</p>
<p>The image you&#8217;re referring to on my Flickr was of somebody else holding a crab, not me &#8211; I would have left it alone.</p>
<p>Not sure of your reason for insult though &#8211; &#8216;lame comments&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: mark light</title>
		<link>http://bethgranter.com/blog/2007/11/intel-love-animal-cruelty/comment-page-1/#comment-152</link>
		<dc:creator>mark light</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Beth,

That&#039;s a pretty sensational page title. I was part of the team that made those ads and I can assure you the dog had a really enjoyable day. She came with her trainers, an entourage of dog friends to keep her company, with the shoot co-ordinated by a specialist in filming animals. We oganised all the movements to be in line with her natural behavior.

It&#039;s unfortunate that the combination of bars and pacing translated into a negative experience for you. That was unforseen, especially as you read the intention of the ad correctly: the protective dog guards the infected computer that has been contained.

The second ad in that campaign has a more playful treatment:
http://www.marklight.co.uk/int_2.htm#a2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Beth,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a pretty sensational page title. I was part of the team that made those ads and I can assure you the dog had a really enjoyable day. She came with her trainers, an entourage of dog friends to keep her company, with the shoot co-ordinated by a specialist in filming animals. We oganised all the movements to be in line with her natural behavior.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s unfortunate that the combination of bars and pacing translated into a negative experience for you. That was unforseen, especially as you read the intention of the ad correctly: the protective dog guards the infected computer that has been contained.</p>
<p>The second ad in that campaign has a more playful treatment:<br />
<a href="http://www.marklight.co.uk/int_2.htm#a2" rel="nofollow">http://www.marklight.co.uk/int_2.htm#a2</a></p>
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		<title>By: D Orkus</title>
		<link>http://bethgranter.com/blog/2007/11/intel-love-animal-cruelty/comment-page-1/#comment-151</link>
		<dc:creator>D Orkus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beth Granter loves cruelty to crabs.

After reading your lame comments about the ad I checked out your flickr photos where I came across pictures of you torturing a crab. I mean, i know you obviously didn&#039;t really torture the crab but the picture made you look as if you were and it made really upset.

boo hoo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beth Granter loves cruelty to crabs.</p>
<p>After reading your lame comments about the ad I checked out your flickr photos where I came across pictures of you torturing a crab. I mean, i know you obviously didn&#8217;t really torture the crab but the picture made you look as if you were and it made really upset.</p>
<p>boo hoo</p>
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		<title>By: Beth Granter</title>
		<link>http://bethgranter.com/blog/2007/11/intel-love-animal-cruelty/comment-page-1/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth Granter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm I&#039;m not sure who you&#039;re agreeing with Cynthia - I don&#039;t actually think the dog was scared or looking for a way out.  Like I said, it probably only did that walk once or twice.  I didn&#039;t mean that Intel really were being cruel - just that the looping of the video had the effect of making it look that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm I&#8217;m not sure who you&#8217;re agreeing with Cynthia &#8211; I don&#8217;t actually think the dog was scared or looking for a way out.  Like I said, it probably only did that walk once or twice.  I didn&#8217;t mean that Intel really were being cruel &#8211; just that the looping of the video had the effect of making it look that way.</p>
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		<title>By: cynthia</title>
		<link>http://bethgranter.com/blog/2007/11/intel-love-animal-cruelty/comment-page-1/#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator>cynthia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah! i agree with the statement above. The poor dog was probably really scared and was just looking for a way out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah! i agree with the statement above. The poor dog was probably really scared and was just looking for a way out.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://bethgranter.com/blog/2007/11/intel-love-animal-cruelty/comment-page-1/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  i never looked at it from that angle before.   I agree with you, that could be seen by many as upsetting.   well done you for highlighting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  i never looked at it from that angle before.   I agree with you, that could be seen by many as upsetting.   well done you for highlighting!</p>
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